I HATE THE PEOPLE OF ARUBA
By Mr. Justice--From the Blog, Just Republic
It is hard to believe that it has been more than a year since I first heard the name Natalee Ann Holloway. Looking back, I think of the immense love that her family, friends and now complete strangers have for her. I think of how the Arubans lead by their police force and elected representatives have attacked her. Prime Minister Nelson Oduber referring to her as being “irrelevant.” It is okay though the Aruban people always knew what this was about; in their fantasyland, it was about tourism.
Gerold “Dumb Pig” Dompig, Ruben Trappenberg, Arlene Ellis-Shipper, Julia Renfro and many Arubans have joined this attack on Natalee. The real problem is this if we compared Natalee versus the 90,000 Arubans, the character of all of Aruba cannot compare to Natalee’s character. Arubans have shown their character it is to attack those that are not available to defend themselves. It is to attack the mother of Natalee, when all she wants is her precise daughter, but it is all about the sacred tourism industry on Aruba.Compassion is not part of the people of Aruba it is not in their nature nor is justice nor is truth. They are all foreign concepts to the people of Aruba. They talk about how wonderful they are:
- Attacking a woman that has been kidnapped
- Attacking her family
- Attacking the media that keeps her case in the news
- Arresting innocent black men
- Allowing known liars to run free
- Allowing suspects to lie to the police
- Protesting for the suspects
- Protesting against the mother of Natalee
- Demanding an apology for the Kalpoe brothers
- Sending up fighter jets that any sane person knows will accomplish nothing in the name of show
- Sending up an infrared chopper weeks after the disappearance when the heat of a body could no longer be detected
- Sending investigators to tell Beth her daughter is dead and sending investigators to tell Beth they found her daughter alive.
That is the Aruban people for you. I hate them and wish them misery until justices righteous might prevails.
38 comments:
Mr. Justice, I couldn't have said it any better than you did. I hate the people who have pretended to be the Holloway/Twitty's friends and letting them believe that they were helping. There is a long list of people in Aruba, the News and others that has done great harm to this family and caused more heartache. When you put your trust in someone and they screw you in the end is sick. I will continue to pray for the family and for Natalee for peace.
Justice for Natalee!!!
Bravo, I don't know if I could have said it as well or anybodyelse could else for that matter. I pray justice will prevail and Natalee will come home to her family.
Put it this way, it is so obviously wrong. I can't let my son Joran getaway with the murder. If he can drug and murder Natalee, he can certainly kill and rape my wife Anita. Joran has no sisters among his siblings. I don't incest as a Dutch culture. It is just that the cold blood murder and obstruction of justice that I cannot bear. I always want to be a good judge to serve my people, but how I am going to do with my evil son Joran. He is destroying me, and I know it. I think I can with the Dutch Police, they are my old buddies. I'll just have them to ship him out, once for all. May be to China, Joran is totally out of control, I can't handle him anymore. Let the China correction officers put him in the re-education labor camp, to help to rebuild the Great Wall, to help to mend the fence between Aruba and the United States, to save the tourism. I think this is a fair punishment for Joran. He will be in prison for a long while, and doing something is hurting nobody. That's the best I can't do. Please don't hate us anymore. We know we are wrong as a nation. God bless.
Ok, Holy mother of god, you are a saint. For Ten (10) years Americans blamed the Ramseys for the death of Jon Benett, so what does that make you. You dont even know Natalee or anything. You are talking about her character, you dont even know her, never even heard of her before last year. Nobody blames the mother of anything, but there are strange things that nobody can explain. thats why sometimes it goes back to her. you are nobody to insult a whole island like that, an island that did everything she could to help find Natalee and find out what happened to her. Dont forget till today there is no proof of anything you and everybody else are saying that happened to her.
I want justice for Natalee and her family, but I cannot abide a comment such as "I hate them and wish them misery until justices righteous might prevails." You say you hate ALL Arubans; like a Jew would, for instance, say her or she hates ALL Germans? That would make one as blind as a Muslim zealot. The justice I seek is tempered by fairness. I can pluralize, because many have been involved in Natalee's travesty, but not generalize. I cannot wish them all misery. I don't want my personal boycott to be dismissed as hysterical.
There is no reason to hate overwhelming majority of the people of Aruba. They have nothing to do with the disappearance of N.H. And who knows..... perhaps the offender is American.... In that case all Arubans are innocent....
SOME PEOPLE in Aruba ARE involved. And are you really that stupid to think that an American is involved? Look at the facts and lies that we've heard over the last 15 months, you are crazy.
I agree with anonymous who wrote about blindness. I hope the person(s) who is/are behind it (from whichever country), will be found and brought to justice. But hating the entire population of Aruba is (in my humble opinion) wrong. Greetings.
I agree...HATE is a strong word. I would save that word for the ALE, Joran, et al. Not ALL of Aruba. But you know there are regular Arubans out there that know something. Those people are just as guilty.
Infrared vision can detect disturbed earth months after it has been dug up, it was also used to find mass graves in Bosnia after the war. Maybe that helps explain to you people why the F-16s and helicopters were deployed?
The Dutch Police abused the NATO arms agreement and used the military infrared cam sto spy on civilians, in this particular case -- the drug lords. To make sure the drug lords to pay up their bribery to the Aruban Police as the middleman. The Bush Administration is silent on this known issue.
Yes, infrared can be used to find MASS GRAVES, large areas of disturbed land, not one small grave. Now, let me clarify what I mean by hating "all Arubans." The people of Aruba have found time to protest the media and Beth, but never the investigation. I am sure that all Arubans are not bad people, however, the good are the exception to the rule.
The near zero tourism intensifies the blame game into a cannibalism mode. More like dog eat dog. The Arubans want to bite back the Dutches. For the moment, the Arubans are winninng. The Dutches are underdogs.
Save the poor people of Aruba crap. They are guilty by association. There are a handfull of Arubans who have covered up this case. Then there are a bunch of them who chose to protest the media and Holloways. Then there are others who know things and won't come foward. So stop the crying. There will be NO pity for the poor Aruban people.
Wow.
Looks like Arubans have really turned this whole affair into what we would call:
A REAL GOAT CIRCUS.
sayonara Aruba.
The Aruban government talked about the deepsea cooling and windmill electricity yesterday in the parliament. The new energy options are for the development of new manufacturing to replace the dying tourism. The raw sewage will be gelled with Aruba Aloe composite and pumped down to the deep cold seafloor to disperse the heat, then they will be sucked back to cool the hotels. This kind of dirty and barbaric thinking is in line with their cruel treatment of the American tourists. Boycott Aruba! Kill Aruba! Hate Aruba!
'Cause the new SAT test is longer and more analytical, none of the students including Joran from ISA scored above the minimum proverty level. None of the ISA students got the admitted to the top 20 schools in the American universities. The Arubans are blaming the American tourists not sponsoring their stupid children for the ATA oversea scholarships. WTF, we only educate the best student doctors and engineers in America, we don't train waiters and busboys and criminals.
You know what I mean, the Aruba Free Trade Zone is a "Free Sex Zone" where the rapes and murders can happen freely, all you have to pay is the 2% export tax. I bet Natalee was packaged there and shipped out of the island, perhaps. The Free Trade Zones include some of the hotel kitchens where the American style sexy pizzas are made to orders shipped and exported to the Far East countries. They are the online Red Light District pimps sex depots. They sell wives and kids all over, which are legal in the kingdom under the new commercial prostitutions laws. Girls as young as 12 can be bought at Aruba Free Tade Zone in the hotel rooms. Boycott Aruba, Boycott Joran, Boycott Pimps.
You should look in your own house, the biggest free sex zone is the USA. With all your sick poeple on the internet looking for little girls and boys to molest and kill. All the fathers that molest their own daugthers and step daugthers. Never mind the ones get get abused and killed every day. What the hek are you talking about. These kind of things dont happen in Aruba. You probably never even went to Aruba, and youre talking out of your ah. Why dont you clean your own house first, look at the man in the mirror, like one of your great heroes, Michel Jackson says, you sick bastard.
It's simple, Aruba.
Her name is Natalee Ann Holloway, Aruba.
GIVE HER BACK TO HER FAMILY AND COUNTRY.
The more you try to divert -- the more you try to make excuses -- the more you try to sidetrack the issue -- the more guilty and pitiful you look.
The more statements we read -- the more corrupt you are proven to be.
I wonder what happens when the Dutch investigation shows that evidence has been destroyed and tampered with?
BOYCOTT ARUBA
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
I wonder when the dutch come and cant do anything other then show the same things that have been shown so far, and they also cannot convict anybody without proof. Thats the whole point, you, i can say yes they killed her they raped her etc etc. But just like in the US if you cannot proof, if you dont have evidence of a crime, there is nothing you can do. I learned something last night i didnt know, in the American law even if someone admits to have done something, like Mr. Karr, if you dont have proof, DNA, etc you cannot convict him or her. So what why is that ok for you and its not ok for Aruba where there is no proof, evidence of anything, there isnt even a crime scene nothing nothing.If the Dutch come and show with evidence that these boys or whoever did something to Natalee, i hope they put them in jail and throw away the keys. But that remains to be seen.
To Anonymous above, yes you learned that "Just a confession" can't convict a suspect, re John Mark Karr. That is why they were very busy trying to AT LEAST place him in Boulder, at the time of the Jon Benet murder. Such is NOT the case with Joran, he was not only DEFINITELY on Aruba when Natalee disappeared, he was the last person SEEN with her. Such can not be said of the obviously delusional and mentally warped Mr. Karr. Joran was there, he made a confession, there was (IMO) forensic evidence found, the last two important facts in evidence have "disappeared". THIS, does not usually happen in the USA. Whoever heard of a suspects confessing and then leading police to the body, the body (to the surprise of the suspect) has disappeared, then so does his confession? I believe if Joran stood in the middle of Aruba with a megaphone declaring his guilt, he would be gagged, dragged away and the whole incident would be denied. That is the way Aruba treats her tourists, protects her Dutch citizens (there is obviously two standards of law enforcement there), that is what Aruba thinks of Americans. That, folks, IS Aruba!
Well Deb357, i hate to dissapoint you but didnt Mr. Karr lie to LE, didnt he obstuct justice by doing all of this story, and get a free first class ticket back to the states with food and drink included. I dont know what you would call that but charges go dropped and he would be a free man right now if it wasnt for those old charges. On top of everything he is a admitted child molester, and still your LE cannot do anything with him, but to let him free. In Aruba you also have your rights, its not called miranda but the read them to you.
To auntiem yes Joran was on Aruba and yes he was last seen with Natalee, so what. Does that make him a murder or rapist etc. Look i dont know Joran, never heard of him before, dont give a hoop about him or if he is guilty or not. I dont care if he is guilty, if he is guilty of something i want to see him in jail period, he is nothing to me. But you cannot convict somebody on suspicion alone you need proof, in America in Aruba or anywhere else.There is and was never proof. What you heard on the news, Nancy, Greta, Oreilly etc was just allegations, rumors etc. That peace of paper where he supposedly confessed, was never signed by him, so that makes it worthless to the law. Dont just go by what you hear, you need proof of something.
Mr. Karr is definitely suffering from delusions and it is obvious that he indeed is a threat to society, as "child molesting" is illegal in this country! However, he did not commit the murder of JonBenet Ramsey. Will he walk free? I think not. They are not only extraditing him to Californis, they have his laptop, and are going to search it completely! This was told to Mr. Karr in Boulder court this am, and it was reported that he was visibly upset. They will find out as much incriminating evidence that they can and he will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. You can count on it, Anonymous above!! We don't send people to jail here for crimes they did not commit, only those for which they can be proven guilty. And in case you haven't realized, this is a LARGE country, not a small island. We find perpertrators, wherever they are, here or half way around the world. What can be said of Aruba? A tiny island? Suspects handed to them, by parents of victim, God forbid the police there should do their work, instead of high priority of eating Frosted Flakes and insulting despondent parents.
You have the right to murder, as long as you are Dutch and victim is not Dutch, but a tourist, preferably an American tourist. You have the right to lie, lie and lie again, as long as you are Dutch. You DO NOT have the right to confess to crime if you are Dutch. You DO NOT have right to lead police to murder victim's location, if you are Dutch and if you do, the victim's body will be removed and hidden elsewhere, proving that you are only a Dutch Liar, not a MURDERER that we and the world really know you are. Shhhhh!
A hell yes to Auntiem!
To anonymous: There WAS proof. It was lost, stolen, thrown away or dismissed.
-Where is the belt?
-What happened to the "last critical phase"?
-Where is the piece of fabric that was identical to Natalee's shirt?
-What happened to the gardner? Deported. They needed to get rid of him.
-Where is Joran's hard drive?
-Where are his clothes from that evening?
-What was found in the house? Why didn't they look in Joran's apartment?
-What and why were the rocks in the Chicago video being painted for? What was found in that area?
-What happened to the plastic bag that was filmed?
By the way, I'd like to see the actual "results" done by The Netherlands when they tested that "Chocolate Stain" from Deepak's car.
Michelle michelle michelle, do you allways believe everything you hear, without verifying it first?? Do you know how many things are found during an investigation that are disregarded. Do you think that everything you find has something to do with a murder or rape or whatever. They found a belt, yeah so what does that mean? Last critical phase?? that is the lack of experience of the ALE in dealing with this kind of case with this kind of media attention or should i say attack.Did you see the fabric?, did you ever walk on the north shores of Aruba and see what kind of sh.... you find everywhere that washes ashore or that people just throw away?The gardner is not deported, stop watching so many crime movies.The Chicago tapes? Well im not even going to touch that, what the hek is that? where did it come from?, if it was important the media would have been all over it dont you think.Yes i saw them but its funny how people think that they have something to do with the case.Not everything was found i dont know where his clothes are or his harddrive, or what happen to them. I dont have an answer for everything otherwise i would be a detective or undercover or PI in this case. Im just a simple person that doesnt see ghosts everywhere and wishes this case would be solved and closed. If Joran is guilty good put his ass in jail. If theyre all guilty put all of them in jail i dont care . If someone else is guilty then throw them in jail i dont care, just get it over with allready.v
Is your PC stuck on someone's name as you are stuck on stupid? You contradict yourself sir or madam. In the same post where you accuse poster of believing what they hear in media and imply how "stupid" that is, you then continue in your nonsense to say that if the Chicago tapes held any importance "THE MEDIA" would surely have gotten hold of it. Now which is it? You don't believe what is in the media or you do not believe what is NOT in the media? You don't care about Joran OR this case, yet you constantly post here (and I'm sure elsewhere)regarding both this suspect and this case. You constantly contradict yourself, is that why you are here? To confuse and contradict yourself? Merely for the sake of argument? You waste our time, and yours. Perhaps you have nothing else better to do with your life, perhaps you don't have a life!!
To the no namer:
"Do you know how many things are found during an investigation that are disregarded?"
In a REAL investigation, everything found is kept for long periods of time depending if the case has been solved or not. Why do you think we are catching so many criminals now? Because of keeping EVIDENCE for a long time. (i.e. semen on the victim's underwear from a killer) We now have DNA technology and things must be kept. STANDARD PROTOCOL.
"They found a belt, yeah so what does that mean?"
Yeah, they found a belt, and after Art Wood thought it could be Joran's and could be valuable evidence, it was taken and thrown away because "it was too old of a belt". It was tossed even after Mr. Wood told the ALE it looked just like the belt Joran used in a photo where he is choking his friend with the belt.
AS TYPICAL POLICE PROTOCOL, anything found during a crime scene search is kept...it doesn't matter that the belt is old.
"Did you see the fabric?"
Yes, I saw a picture of the fabric on TV, and the still pictures on the internet. This is not a new discovery. Everyone who follows the case knows about the torn shirt. We just want to know...where did it go?
It is examples such as this that COULD HAVE BEEN EVIDENCE, but were purposely discarded to continue the coverup.
I don't know what kind of weed you've been smoking, but if you can't see through all the "smoke screen" you must be seriously DENSE.
Auntiem said...
You have the right to murder, as long as you are Dutch and victim is not Dutch, but a tourist, preferably an American tourist. You have the right to lie, lie and lie again, as long as you are Dutch.
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Its called Dutch Law.-"If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much"
that about sums up the happenings in this case.
In a REAL investigation, everything found is kept for long periods of time depending if the case has been solved or not.
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In Aruba we have a bunch of Goat-ropers doing the investigation.
But you cannot convict somebody on suspicion alone you need proof, in America in Aruba or anywhere else.There is and was never proof.
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Wrong. In the US people have been convicted on alot less evidence (circumstanitial or physical) than what is known here.
Wow, you guys are all attacking me on a personal level, i didnt do that to anybody. Yes Antiem with all the media attack or coverage or whatever you want to call it, if those tapes were remotely relevant to the case they would have jumped on it just like the jumped on everything else no matter how small or insignificant it is. That is not to say they would have been right, no. Im not dense, iam open to any possibility, you are the ones that are attacking me on a personal level because i stated some facts or let me say my opinion. Ye last anonymous, in the states everything is possible, they convict with very little or they let go free with everything, remember OJ Simpson??? They had more evidence and proof and DNA and i dont know what else then any other case in the UNiverse HE still walked, so did Michel Jackson, oh let me not forget a sick Bi... that killed her 5 (Five) kids one by one, now all of a sudden she is crazy.Well i think she was crazy back then, but thats the US Law , if you have money you get away with murder. So you are not perfect either. Anyways you people cannot reason like humans without insults then i will not post again its not worth the typing. Once again for the record, i want justice for Natalee and everybody else, if something was done to her by someone or some people i hope they find them. I have no reason to defend Joran or his fimaly or the two brothers or anybody else that came across this case, i dont know them never have, i dont care. I just want this to be over with one way or the other, but according to the law.
Yeah, Anonymous, you are absolutely correct " If you're Dutch, you ain't much" everywhere but in Aruba and the Netherlands, that is! Who can respect lawless people, who have no respect for Human life?
Lawless people??? I am not dutch, But when your Law depends on how much money you have, then i would rather be lawless. In the states you have money you get away with murder.You are poor and innocent you will fry in hell, thats the way it is in America great country!!!!
I believe that you have finally gotten youself completely confused. It is on Aruba, where the innocent, "coloreds" as you call anyone not dutch, a carry over from the justice system "enjoyed" by the "white dutch" in South Africa. You are still back in the nineteenth century and guarding it with all your being, where we, Americans, have come a long way from our ante-Bellum South. Obviously, your dumb Aruban mentality was not aware of this when they mistakenly believed that Beth would fall for the "black security guards" guilt, hook, line and sinker. You were sadly mistaken!! Beth wanted the REAL culprits arrested and prosecuted, and fought to have the two INNOCENT black men released. Beth wants JUSTICE, not stupid, racist, token revenge. Why would she? Why would anybody in their right mind want the wrong people to pay for a crime committed against a loved one, while the real animals enjoy freedom, smug satisfaction of beating the rap, and enabled to repeat their atrocities on other unknowing, innocent victims?
I believe that you have finally gotten youself completely confused. It is on Aruba, where the innocent, "coloreds" as you call anyone not dutch, a carry over from the justice system "enjoyed" by the "white dutch" in South Africa. You are still back in the nineteenth century and guarding it with all your being, where we, Americans, have come a long way from our ante-Bellum South. Obviously, your dumb Aruban mentality was not aware of this when they mistakenly believed that Beth would fall for the "black security guards" guilt, hook, line and sinker. You were sadly mistaken!! Beth wanted the REAL culprits arrested and prosecuted, and fought to have the two INNOCENT black men released. Beth wants JUSTICE, not stupid, racist, token revenge. Why would she? Why would anybody in their right mind want the wrong people to pay for a crime committed against a loved one, while the real animals enjoy freedom, smug satisfaction of beating the rap, and enabled to repeat their atrocities on other unknowing, innocent victims?
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