THE DUTCH--WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE!
An email was sent to the Dutch prosecutors regarding their ongoing investigation of Natalee. Guess what?! They are now claiming they are not responsible for the investigation!
Question:
When can we expect a report from the Dutch special investigation of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba?
When can we expect a report from the Dutch special investigation of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba?
Reply:
Dear ________, thank you for your email, you ask for a report of Natalee Holloway. We are sorry but the Dutch Public Prosecution Service is not responsable for the report of Natalee Hollway. This is the case of the Public Prosecution Service in Aruba. You can contact them at the telephonenumber: 00-297-834387
Yours sincerly,
Annette Sluijter
Publieksvoorlichter
Postbus 51 Informatiedienst
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If we wait on Aruba to give us updates, we will be waiting a long time. They are corrupt and do not care.
I think we should bombard the Public Prosecution Service in Aruba with calls.
00-297-834387
Can someone post me the e-mail address
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Regeringn regering@postbus51.nl
The Kingdom Relations email is:
Postbus Koninkrijksrelaties Koninkrijksrelaties@minbzk.nl
G. E. A. van Craaikamp. DIRECTOR, IMMIGRATION POLICY DEPARTMENT. / MINISTRY OF JUSTICE.
His email is gea.craaikamp@minbzk.nl.
As for phone numbers I suggest googling State Secretary of Kingdom Relations Ank Bijleveld-Schouten.
this lady is right, the responsibility of any investigation (criminal) is placed at the OM (openbaar ministerie/ public prosecution ministry) of the country where the crime takes place. Even if foreign law officers are invited to partake (like the KLPD was asked) does not make the Dutch OM responsible for the case. That remains with the OM in Aruba.
OM Aruba
Adres : Havenstraat 2 | Oranjestad | Aruba
Postadres : Postbus 1163 | Oranjestad | Aruba
Tel : +297 582 1415
Fax : +297 583 8891
Email : om.aruba@setarnet.aw
This is outragious. So no one OM is taking responsibility. WTF is that Ramm. Are you happy now?
I am pretty sure that I wrote that the Aruban OM is responsible and that is why I posted the information of it's address and email.
And why would I be happy about the Aruban OM being responsible for this case?? I would much prefer our OM being in charge but that is a non-starter because that is not how the laws work. The Aruban OM is responsible for all Aruban cases. They will have to prosecute the case in ARUBA. Hence the Aruban DA has the responsibility for the case from a legal standpoint.
And because our OM is not in charge of the case they cannot make any statements about it.
Why do I want to read Ramm's quotes here? BTW Ramm. How is your NEW super cop doing in Aruba???? Getting Wealthy????
Ramm, let me ask you. You keep saying in BFN 'No Body, No Forensic Evidence' to dislodge this Natalee case. Is this the idea from the Aruban OM or Dutch OM or both? If so, we got a problem here. The Netherlands has forgotten us Americans of our courage and scarifices to save them from the death squads of the Nazi. The Netherlands is no longer our friend. We will kick the Dutch ass. The new soldier from Iraq.
"And why would I be happy about the Aruban OM being responsible for this case?? I would much prefer our OM being in charge but that is a non-starter because that is not how the laws work. The Aruban OM is responsible for all Aruban cases. They will have to prosecute the case in ARUBA. Hence the Aruban DA has the responsibility for the case from a legal standpoint."
It sounds like circular thinking as the Aruban OM is Dutch under contract to the ALE but the Dutch are not responsible.
Cute.
Yes Donald, and in addition to the this being 'how the law works', it is a classic example of an in depth look at how corruption works, where an 'investigation' begets an 'investigation' from 'investigators' who flew the coop and were replaced by other investigators, who flew the coop, who were replaced by other investigators, who flew the coop - until outside 'investigators' were called in to investigate the 'investigation of the 'investigation, of the 'investigation', because...."THIS IS HOW THE LAW WORKS".
When the American people read about Bill O'Really and Dutch OM mistreatment of Natalee Holloway, they are very upset and depressed. Our government's hand are tied up by the Dutch for some unknown reason. Maybe some very big coverup and corruption we don't even know yet. Very sad for the coming election year 2008. We are going to elect a new President and hope things will change.
The kidnaping title will blow Aruba's tourism into pieces. There are plenty of evidence to support the kidnaping motive of Joran. There are photos that Beth took on her first encounter of Joran. No one knew about them until now been published in her new book.
Read the posts between Mark (MIP) and Robin.
She asks his opinion and he responds. See anything amiss with this picture?
http://truth4natalee.s3.bizhat.com/truth4natalee-ftopic2587-0.html
The American people are not that uninformed. They know there is a Dutch mole behind every corruption and coverup in this world. Natalee's kidnapping, rape, murder and coverup let the American people unmasking the real evil face of the Dutch dynasty clans.
The Dutch are pushing the US to recognize the domain of the world court in Hague for the purpose of taking over the cocaine interdiction cases in the Caribbeans and Aruba Antillies. The Dutch is buying a lot of lobbying in our governments. The gift cards scandals are about to surface. The gift cards can be bought at any store with cash. No Receipt, No Trace. The Dutch way of saying No Body, No Corruption.
End of July is the end for Aruba. Airline companies are trimming the daily flights to Aruba to cut cost and cope with the dwindling passengers. Aruba has a dark secret that ATA lost over 70% of their business just in July.
OK. I went to that TFN link and read the posts.
I was shocked that Robin was not standing by
Dave's theory of date rape drugs! Where is her support? She needs to stand by Dave and not open herself up to any more horse manure or speculation from Aruba.
The Dutch worship Chavez as their hero. They will be rewarded with an oilfield taken away from the American oil company. Oduber wants to be a dictator and get rid of the election next month.
Robin yelled at Dave few times on the driveway next to their house while the little girls were watching. What do you expect?
Since 2005 elections, the MEP has been plagued by constant allegations of corruption and scandals. One such allegation resulted in the removal of selected authorities (related to naturalization and immigration) from the Minister of Justice (Hiacinto (Rudy) Croes) by means of a protocol signed by three Dutch Ministers and the government of Aruba.
Another scandal, which has not resulted in a conviction is related to the Minister of Labour. The Minister, T.F. (Ramon) Lee, was publicly accused by a female aide of sexual harrasment.
The latest scandal is the result of a bribery letter, the now infamous "Namdar Letter", exposed by a former MEP aide, Micheal Williams
The queen's tour guide into the underworld turned out to be her son's fiancee, Mabel Wisse Smit, an ambitious young woman whose ties to one of the country's biggest mobsters were more extensive than she first admitted.
The queen's middle child, Prince Johan Friso, 35, admitted on Friday that he and Smit had been less than forthcoming about her contacts with Klaas Bruinsma, a gangster and drug baron who had been executed, gangland style, in 1991. Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende, visibly perturbed and shocked about the Queen's intent to coverup, went on television to announce that his Cabinet would not submit the couple's marriage to parliament for its approval, a prerequisite for succession to the throne.
The Dutch man, son of the Queen's high ranking judicial student judge, 20-year-old Joran Van Der Sloot of ORANJESTAD, Aruba changed his alibi beach story again. He telephoned his mother Anita that he forgot about his shoes at a beach hut near ISA. He slept in the hut and didn't go to school Monday. The reason why he confessed that to his mother at this 11th hour, none could understand. Cracks had emerged in the stories of three main suspects in the case of Natalee Holloway, the American teen who was kidnapped in Aruba more than two weeks ago. In the Dr. Phil case deposition, Joran's two Surinamese friends, Deepak and Satish who were brothers, insisted that they did drop Joran and Natalee off at his father Paulus' house after he promosed to bring Natalee back to her hotel. Natalee was not drunk, and Joran was pulling her off the car.
Joran could then say he was ambushed and Natalee was kidnapped. He was blacked out and woke up and found himself in a hut not knowing what had happened. He was too embrassed to say Natalee was kidnapped and too scared someone's going to kill him and his father Paulus if he tells.
In order for the Kalpoe brothers to win the Dr. Phil's case and come scott free, their attorneys cannot allow Joran to position either Deepak or Satish at the beach. That is very obvious. Plus Joran said one day he will tell the truth when his father is safe from prosecution.
Then Joe T and Julia R can spin the story further that Joran was attacked by the Med plane people, and Natalee was smuggled out of Aruba. Julia claimed that the Med plane been parking illegally at the airport since Natalee's arrival.
You are talking a little foolish??? Aruba and Holland cannot afford to be "ambushed". Joran just gone too far.
Being ambused and kidnapped is the real fear that keeps the tourists from coming to Aruba. The end result of kidnappings are rapes and murders. Admitted being the last person with Natalee, and no witnesses come forward, Joran has incriminated himself, in the eye of the Dutch law, as the sole kidnapper punishable up to life imprisonment.
Vivian Van Der Biezan, spokeswoman for the attorney general’s office, said Dutch law allows a charge of murder if no body is found. Investigators “cannot exclude".
Serious offenses against personal liberty" of the Dutch Penal Code:
Article 278
"A person who carries another person away across the borders of the Kingdom within Europe, with the object unlawfully surrendering him to the power of another person or rendering him helpless, is guilty of manstealing and is liable to a term of not more that twelve years or a fine of the fifth category."
A fine of the fifth category may mean in the sum of 5 millions dollars. All the Dutch judicial wants is treasury, justice is not a priority.
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