June 19, 2007

THE BOYCOTT--WE'VE LOST SOME BALLS








I don't wish to elaborate on this subject. If you don't know what I am talking about, go to BFN or the SM Forum. They've got plenty to say there.


30 comments:

Boycott Aruba said...

Robin and Dave are easily swayed. It's very obvious what has happened here. MIP6 has changed their minds. I bet he has a huge smile on his face.

BUT, guess what,Our balls are BIGGER!



BOYCOTT ARUBA

Michelle Says So said...

Thank GOD, someone with some sense. Sitting and praying isn't going to get anyone ANYWHERE.

Anonymous said...

I realize that justice for Natalee Holloway is the focus of my mission and ... I believe it is a noble cause. However ... the underlying reason for my involvement has been to support the family in their quest for answers. I have done that ... I have given my all and stood behind the boycott for over 1 1/2 years ... a boycott that was called by Governor Riley on behalf of the family of Natalee Holloway.
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A huge concern of mine has been Robin Holloway's close relationship with those who have a vested interest in the Aruban tourist industry ... her close relationship with those who have discredited most members of Natalee's family (including Dave) on public forums using the most despicable words and ... her close relationship with those who uphold Julia Renfro, Joran, Paulus, the judiciary as well as the way Dutch law was applied in the Natalee Holloway case.
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I am pleading for Beth Twitty to break her silence and ... reassure those of us who … through various means … have supported the family since day one in their contention that a corrupt investigation was denying Natalee justice and … that a boycott of Aruba was the only means to put pressure on the “powers that be” who could make a difference..
Janet AKA Tamikosmom
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Natalee's Family and the Boycott
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CBS NEWS
Gov. Bob Riley called for a nationwide travel boycott of Aruba on Tuesday on behalf a missing Alabama teenager's family, who accuse the island's government of not fully cooperating with the investigation into her disappearance.
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Dave Holloway and the Boycott
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ON THE RECORD /W GRETA
HOLLOWAY: ... I made sure that the prime minister understood our position. You know, I had been holding off on this boycott as long as I could, and I told him, I said, you know, The big wave is coming, and if you guys are not going to listen, I can't help you anymore.
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ARUBA TRUTH
“I do not have a formal response available at this time, but I will support the decisions of elected officials and therefore support what the Alabama government has decided to do,” Holloway said in a telephone interview Tuesday evening. “The Aruban people elected their officials to make decisions in the best interests of their people, and we have done the same. The Alabama governor made a decision on Natalee's behalf, so I will support that position.”
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Beth Twitty and the Boycott
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CBS NEWS
The only leverage that we have in getting any traction in the investigation is when they feel the effects of a boycott," says Twitty

Boycott Aruba said...

We must fight fire with fire- hell I am spitting fire here-

Boycott Aruba

WE (unlike Dave and Robin) wants justice for Natalee.

Richard said...

Everyone who has followed the twists and turns of the Natalee Holloway case for some time (Michelle and I have both been on it for day one) know what this thread is about. A post was made on another forum today in the names of Dave and Robin Holloway saying that they no longer support the boycott of Aruba, on the ground that "innocent" Arubans were being harmed by it.

Obviously this testifies to the effect of the boycott. Obviously someone has been trying to persuade them either that the boycott is not working, or that it is working too well.

I don't presume to say what any member of the Holloway Twitty family, or anyone else, should think. I do, however, believe that the boycott is the ONE AND ONLY tool that has brought any progress for the family. It was economic pressure, not prayer meetings or meditation sessions, that forced the Aruban business community to seek the participation of the Dutch. Nobody with an ounce of sanity would think the Aruban government did that of its own free will.

So the Dutch are, or were, on Aruba. And yet we still have no answers. What is the logic, then, in making public statements that weaken support for the boycott?

There are reports of starvation in North Korea from time to time. Do we abandon our tough policy toward that country because of them? No; the plight of those people results from the actions of THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT. It is hostile to us and insular, and our opposition is only an expression of sanity in a difficult world. If Americans are not going to Aruba, it is because of the actions (and inactions, and lies, and evasions, and outright duplicity) of THAT GOVERNMENT. Let Arubans protest to their own government if they feel abused by their policies; it certainly gives them enough reasons to do so.

There is no need here to review the treatment of the Holloway Twitty family since May 30, 2005. They know it better than any of us. I am certain that Dave and Robin Holloway are strong in their faith, and believe in the adage "return good for evil"; however, how far has that tactic gotten them?

Some readers here will know that I set up the first "protest" in Boston at an event where the Aruba Tourism Authority appeared. It's not a big deal that I did it; the fact is, though, that I did do it, thinking that Internet posts aren't enough to get a movement going. Some liked the talk of a boycott, some didn't; but the impact was the same there and in Miami. The case was put before people; expressions of outrage were forthcoming; and at least in Boston, several sympathizers took my suggestion, went over to the Aruban booth and told those people, "I'm never going to your island, and here's why."

Anyone think that had an impact? Anyone think those people reported back to their offices in Oranjestad what was said? You bet!

I for one shall never go to Aruba. But I fear that if the family fail to lead in warning people away from Aruba, their tragedy will slowly be forgotten. And what will be left from our efforts? It will be like sand slipping through one's fingers on the beach.

Coming, as it did, on the verge of another boycott protest/demonstration/whatever you want to call it in New Orleans, the family's message came at a particularly bad time. The cause being harmed is their own.

Boycott Aruba said...

Great post Janet & Richard.

Boycott Aruba!!

Anonymous said...

Our government is now looking into the indictments of some Arubans living in NYC for obstruction of justice and bribing the city officials and judges for their coverups of crimes and corruptions. The mayor just jumps ship because of that.

Anonymous said...

Personally, I understand Robin (and Dave's) change of heart. They are DESPERATE. And, desperation makes for strange bedfellows. But, MY boycott of Aruba has never been about Dave, Robin or Beth. My boycott is because I am an AMERICAN CITIZEN and it is wrong what a foreign NATION has done to justice on behalf of one of my fellow AMERICANS. When they drug our GI'S through the streets of Somalia. We did NOTHING. Every terrorist who was captured and interviewed pointed to THAT episode and said it was when they knew America had lost her will to even care about her own. What Aruba has done to an AMERICAN is no less far-reaching and WRONG.

Dave and Robin are desperate. I am not. I am a MAD PATRIOT.

Anonymous said...

The Aruban black young poor kids want to drive the White Dutch out of the island. They dug up the vintage WWII firearms buried by the old Dutch mercenaries in the mine caves. The Dutch marines received orders to plan blockcade Aruba and stop the violence from spreading to the other Antillies.

Anonymous said...

Another idea is for you to repost the Natalee video you used to have. Only addtion would be to make it more political appealing to beat the Dutch in their own games.

Bones said...

Dave & Robin, would you send your girls to Aruba on a senior trip?

It's a shame you back out when something finally gets started in your direction. You had the power to keep pressure on Aruba. Get what I said? *had*. You've lost what little support and respect you had from many people, today after making that post on BFN.

I agree with Michelle and every post made on this topic.

I will continue to Boycott Aruba until there is Justice for Natalee. Someone has to keep the pressure to get answers for YOUR daughter being you two backed out. What a shame.

Bones

grass said...

Given up has never been an option, not to worry I will always be here until Natalee is found and brought home. What I have been threw, there is no way in hell anyone will tell me what to do. I am here for one reason only, Natalee Ann Holloway

jen3560 said...

I personally have never boycotted Aruba because of anything Dave and/or Robin Holloway have said or done.

I personally have not agreed with the public stance Robin took in showing who she supported in their efforts.

I personally have never trusted the judgement of Robin Holloway after that support she gave.
I personally will NOT stop boycotting the island of Aruba.

I personally don't buy into the "innocent Aruban's being hurt".
Those "innocent Arubans" marched in protest against Beth Twitty when she rightly named the Kalpoe brothers as criminals.

Those "innocent Arubans" have bowed to their government's wishes and trashed both Natalee and her family on the internet and international news stations.

Those "innocent Arubans" re-elected members of their corrupt government.

Those "innocent Arubans" are the ONLY ones who can rectify the situation within their government.

Those "innocent Arubans" need to remove their heads from the sand and hopefully learn from this case that THEIR human rights will never be protected by their own officials.

Regardless of what Natalee's step mother says - that island is UNSAFE!!

BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!!!!!!!!
jen3560

Faith said...

I agree with everything jen said- I couldn't have written it better myself.

I personally have never boycotted Aruba because of anything Dave and/or Robin Holloway have said or done.

I personally have not agreed with the public stance Robin took in showing who she supported in their efforts.

I personally have never trusted the judgement of Robin Holloway after that support she gave.
I personally will NOT stop boycotting the island of Aruba.

I personally don't buy into the "innocent Aruban's being hurt".
Those "innocent Arubans" marched in protest against Beth Twitty when she rightly named the Kalpoe brothers as criminals.

Those "innocent Arubans" have bowed to their government's wishes and trashed both Natalee and her family on the internet and international news stations.

Those "innocent Arubans" re-elected members of their corrupt government.

Those "innocent Arubans" are the ONLY ones who can rectify the situation within their government.

Those "innocent Arubans" need to remove their heads from the sand and hopefully learn from this case that THEIR human rights will never be protected by their own officials.

Regardless of what Natalee's step mother says - that island is UNSAFE!!

BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!!!!!!!!
jen3560

Anonymous said...

Robin is not the biological mother of Natalee. She doesn't care. She just happened to get married to a divorced insurance salesman named Dave. Robin has a good provider and a comfortable home and a unlimited spending money. Dave is a super salesman own his subcontracts. All Robin said was a pretty front but cursed and backstabbed Dave in the background. Robin was the one that emptied Natalee's dresser in their home and gave MP3 all Natalee's pictures and other belongings, some of them are now in the hands of Joran. Robin is a evil B----, she is endangering Dave and hampers the justice for Natalee.

Anonymous said...

I always thought Robin was Anita, and Debbie is Dutch.

Anonymous said...

I do find it strange. That i'm willing to stay and fight for Natalee. And the stepmother is backing out of it?

Anonymous said...

It continues to amaze me how the Arubans can frame these all-encompassing background lies and have people just fall in line. "Innocent Arubans" are not
being harmed by the boycott. That is the beauty of it. The Aruban hotel industry operates like home-building in Phoenix. Illegal labor is employed at
rock-bottom wages to support profit margins even
at moderate price points. Haven't the Holloways read Jossy's articles about all the illegals on the island? Don't they know that even the Kalpoes are
not citizens and neither was Mickey John? All the
boycott does is hurt the powers that be - private
and governmental - who profit off of the corrupt
reality to which Natalee fell victim. Avoid Aruba
for travel and all you do is divert dollars to more
deserving locales where at least maybe the
minimum wage work force is local and legal
and, in the case of Puerto Rico, may have
relatives serving in Irag or Afghanistan.
Any of the working poor on Aruba who might be
hurt can just go back to Chavez - after they
have run out of money harassing tourist women
at C&C's of course.

Boycott Aruba said...

Ramm- STFU you moron. You are one of the biggest nobody's that breathes air on God's Green Earth!

BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You want to kick my arce? Bring it big cat lover- bring it!

BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ramm it up your ... said...

I hope I never run into this person because even though I am proud to have never started or been in a fight (I hate violence), I would be seriously tempted to kick him where it really really hurts (I would only kick or be violent of course if the person were a man, a person who raises a hand to a woman is not a person IMHO but worse than any gutter dwelling animal), just so he can feel the pain Robin and Dave had been having ever since their daughter went missing.

WHO DOES THIS PERSON THINK HE IS? HUH? I THINK HE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST IDIOTS I HAVE HAD THE MISFORTUNE TO READ. How dare this ba$tard write this about Robin and about Dave.

I am sick to my stomach by the absolute hatred coming from this morons words.

I am also sick to my stomach by the actions of Hate-central for even posting such a heinous character assassination on Robin and Dave, it just shows that they are not in it for Justice for Natalee because they don't give a rat's behind about Natalee or Justice, they are all about hatred and venting their sick views of the world.


The morons I am talking about in the title of this story, are the people who write/fully agree with hateful stuff like this and the people who allow such hatred to be posted on their blogs.

The word morons is not meant as a description of the average reader of said Blog, only the description of people who feel it is justified to attack Dave and Robin in such a manner as seen on said Blog (just so there are no mistakes as to WHO I think morons are)

Posted by Rammstein at 8:26 AM

Brown Sugar said...

Not everyone who agrees with a boycott is a HATER or some evil person RAMM!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Ramm,

I cannot believe you actually just posted this:

The morons I am talking about in the title of this story, are the people who write/fully agree with hateful stuff like this and the people who allow such hatred to be posted on their blogs.
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You DO realize that at BFN you post with such hateful people, right?

MIP6 - Doc Holladay
Reality - Alvin (and others)
The Earl - Walter Shoback

Tho Debbie doesn't allow their hatred to be posted at BFN, she does allow them to be members of a site purportedly to support Natalee.

Not to mention YOU, yourself Ramm, who have posted hateful things about Beth Twitty on other sites as well, only you used your given name under which to post such things.

Such hypocrisy is exactly WHY BFN lost many of its most ardent supporters last year.

And now the problem has become huge by Robin giving the finger to not only BFN members this time - but the entire internet community who has been supporting the cause of Justice for Natalee.

I wonder just how many times Natalee's step mother will attempt to sabotage that support before she is satisfied?

jen3560

Boycott Aruba said...

WE- have worked over two years to to get answers for Natalee's family.

WE- have held our heads high and proudly kept our stickers on our cars.

WE- will NOT stop boycotting Aruba until there is Justice for Natalee.

WE- are the people that want answers and Justice for Natalee!

WE- are called Boycott Supporters


BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Justice for Natalee
Justice for Natalee
Justice for Natalee

Anonymous said...

RAMM is the KING of all Morons and now he's got his knickers in a twist talking about HATEFUL posts here when he lays down with the demon hounds of HELL.

GO F Yourself RAMM. You are useless and the biggest phoney there is.

Pick a Name , Auntie, Kindteach, whatever!!!! said...

The word "hate" never appeared on Blogs for Nincompoops, til MIP6 reared his "ugly head" and started posting. I see the "demon pup" from hell, Rammstina, is now aping his style.

"Stop the Hate".....was MiP6's first hue and cry.....when I so shamefully posted "good riddance" to "Choose a Name" when it burned down.

Oh, that bunch on that "site for evil" are quite a mix. Half are Aruban dirty-workers, the others so semi-comatose they can't see through Reality, Gagmegirl, and the monster of all monsters, MIP6, how could they possibly notice that the Mississippi Miss ain't no sweet thang!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I'm a little late catching up:-)

jen3560, auntie, janet.

Great posts!

Thanks Michelle!

BOYCOTT ARUBA
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

Anonymous said...

Debbie has let BFN be overrun by deceptive and hateful trolls.

It might as well be called BFAHATA.

Anonymous said...

Debbie of BFN has done a huge disservice to Natalee by
allowing two-faced trolls to derail threads and push their tourism agenda.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe that Robin bought the "innocent Arubans being hurt" line.

How about innocent Natalee? How about the innocent girls, both local and tourist, that an Aruban poster says have been drugged at C and C and date-raped?

How about the innocent girls who say that Joran
drugged and date-raped them?

How about the innocent girls, who can be helped in the future, if Aruba is forced to clean up its act?


How about innocent Max DeVries and Mr. Larson?

Robin has been duped and has hurt Dave's quest to find his daughter Natalee.

Anonymous said...

Those supposedly "innocent Arubans" had no problem protesting the Holloway family and telling them to go home. Plus, they protested FIRST!